So apparently you think there’s no options other than “every person in this generation is exactly the same” and “generations have no bearing on identity at all”.
Generations are raised at a similar time with similar cultural events that shaped them as a whole. To claim that the time a generation is raised does not affect them as a population is to claim that nothing that happens during people’s childhood affects their personality for the rest of their lives.
An entire generation in America was raised on Dr. Spock’s The Common Sense Book of Baby and Child Care, another was raised on Sesame Street, does that make no difference?
One generation was raised to be afraid of stranger danger, another was kicked out of the house and told not to come back until it was dark. But to you, they’re still the same?
Class matters, but to pretend that it’s the only thing that matters is putting Marxist blinders on your reality.
Ok, so you do think the only options are “exactly the same” or “nothing alike”. No shit it’s a generalization, the discussion is about the general population of a country born within the same ~20-year timespan.
I think everyone in my generation was raised at the advent of the internet, and had 9/11 as a defining moment in their childhood. I think they entered the workforce around the Great Recession, and it affected the way they see the idea of corporate culture and their likelihood of achieving ‘The American Dream’. I think those events affected my generation differently than they do one born 40 years before, since they were at a different stage in their lives.
To ignore that is to be willfully blind. You can easily look up polling data by generation at each stage in their lives and see that each generation as a whole has different attitudes about politics, or desired income, or family preference.
So here’s the thing, we are fundamentally on the same side of this divide.
I’m anticapitalist, anti-corporate, liberal left.
And yet here we are shouting at each other.
Interestingly we are also the same generation.
Admittedly, from two different continents.
But I believe we want the same thing.
What we are arguing about is how we achieve that.
I don’t believe in generalisation. I’m not sure that it helps when facing the problems we both face. I don’t thinkblumping people in as a whole is an effective way to make allies across divides.
For me, this includes Americans. Many people I know think all Americans are crass, shallow capitalists who support a reigime that colonises through oppressive power and cultural dominance.
But if I believe that, then I believe you are part of that.
I don’t want to believe that. I want to believe that you care to make a change and that being part of a whole that doesn’t represent you doesn’t stop you from resisting it.
You are not my enemy, despite being part of a thing we see as the enemy.
So here I am, calling a truce. I’m calling time on our disagreement and trying to show you that I mean what I say.
In return I want you to think about how you see boomers, or any generation though. They are not your enemy. They are just the definition of your enemy.
So apparently you think there’s no options other than “every person in this generation is exactly the same” and “generations have no bearing on identity at all”.
Generations are raised at a similar time with similar cultural events that shaped them as a whole. To claim that the time a generation is raised does not affect them as a population is to claim that nothing that happens during people’s childhood affects their personality for the rest of their lives.
An entire generation in America was raised on Dr. Spock’s The Common Sense Book of Baby and Child Care, another was raised on Sesame Street, does that make no difference?
One generation was raised to be afraid of stranger danger, another was kicked out of the house and told not to come back until it was dark. But to you, they’re still the same?
Class matters, but to pretend that it’s the only thing that matters is putting Marxist blinders on your reality.
That’s such a massive generalisation it is comical.
Even if that were true for America, it still isn’t true on a global scale.
I mean, do you think everyone of your generation is the same and has the same values? I’m genuinely interested in that.
Ok, so you do think the only options are “exactly the same” or “nothing alike”. No shit it’s a generalization, the discussion is about the general population of a country born within the same ~20-year timespan.
I think everyone in my generation was raised at the advent of the internet, and had 9/11 as a defining moment in their childhood. I think they entered the workforce around the Great Recession, and it affected the way they see the idea of corporate culture and their likelihood of achieving ‘The American Dream’. I think those events affected my generation differently than they do one born 40 years before, since they were at a different stage in their lives.
To ignore that is to be willfully blind. You can easily look up polling data by generation at each stage in their lives and see that each generation as a whole has different attitudes about politics, or desired income, or family preference.
So here’s the thing, we are fundamentally on the same side of this divide.
I’m anticapitalist, anti-corporate, liberal left.
And yet here we are shouting at each other.
Interestingly we are also the same generation.
Admittedly, from two different continents.
But I believe we want the same thing.
What we are arguing about is how we achieve that.
I don’t believe in generalisation. I’m not sure that it helps when facing the problems we both face. I don’t thinkblumping people in as a whole is an effective way to make allies across divides.
For me, this includes Americans. Many people I know think all Americans are crass, shallow capitalists who support a reigime that colonises through oppressive power and cultural dominance.
But if I believe that, then I believe you are part of that.
I don’t want to believe that. I want to believe that you care to make a change and that being part of a whole that doesn’t represent you doesn’t stop you from resisting it.
You are not my enemy, despite being part of a thing we see as the enemy.
So here I am, calling a truce. I’m calling time on our disagreement and trying to show you that I mean what I say.
In return I want you to think about how you see boomers, or any generation though. They are not your enemy. They are just the definition of your enemy.
Agreed.