Jack Dorsey backs diVine, a Vine reboot that includes Vine’s video archive of 6-second, looping videos.
He’s so desperate to be relevant. This will flop so hard.
But why? 6 second video slop is already everywhere.
Looks like the 6 second limit is already removed but I can’t really tell because the launch version of this app is so broken it could just be a glitch. Hope it keeps improving
I hope he won’t fight the removal of the 6-second limit after beta testing is over. That should just be a way to save storage space and bandwidth during the beta test. Nostr is decentralized, so there should be nothing stopping someone from mirroring the app with no 6-second limit in their version, if it actually gets developed into a stable service. Or this jack-backed version could just remove the 6-second limit
However, unlike on traditional social media, where AI content is often haphazardly labeled, diVine will flag suspected generative AI content and prevent it from being posted.
Although I really enjoyed and kinda miss Vine, I think it’s important to realize Vine was also a product of its time.
The internet culture changed a lot since Vine shutdown. Bringing Vine back won’t bring that old culture back, and the 6-second limit is more likely to alienate new users used to the modern short-video platforms than anything.I will give them props for trying to fight the seemingly unstoppable slop-ification of the internet, but ultimately it believe it would be best to leave Vine and the great memories we had with it on the past.
…Also, negative interest with interacting with Nostr and crypto powered social media 🤢
Yeah, it is just going to be filled with shortened down tiktok slop rather than anything it would have been in the past.
……Also, negative interest with interacting with Nostr and crypto powered social media 🤢
You’re saying you hate piefed for actually using encryption for users to log into specific accounts before posting instead of just being anon posts like 4chan?
And you hate 4chan for using https instead of being like old BBS forums?
Or is it just nostr using decentralized logins that takes the cryptography too far for you?
Colloquially crypto means crypto currencies or NFTs like bitcoin, not normal encryption.
The 6 second time limit and forced 3 time loop was really annoying. Short videos, sure. But maybe like average song length short. 3 minutes.
Then again, those quirks are what made some pretty memorable Vines 🤷♂️
3 minutes is a fucking movie marathon in modern content terms (and I’ll never forgive big tech for it)
Crypto powered social media?
Plus, because it’s built on Nostr, a decentralized protocol favored by Dorsey, and is open source, developers can set up and create their own apps and run their own hosts, relays, and media servers.
Sounds great in paper, in reality it amounts to little more than Twitter with Lightning (Bitcoin) duct-taped to the side
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Lightning isn’t Bitcoin
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Taping Lightning to the side of nostr sucks, but doesn’t reduce it to “little more than Twitter”
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I don’t think that’s entirely fair; the Nostr protocol has a modular design philosophy, with most components being optional addons, including the Bitcoin payments stuff. It’s genuinely decentralized and explicitly made to be easy to not use any baggage you don’t like.
It’s unclear from the article if the use of the protocol will also mean overlap with the content and community of Nostr, which is understandable to criticize, but the protocol itself is just another take on decentralized social media that does things differently than activitypub.
What makes Nostr like Bitcoin?
Actually, what makes nostr like Twitter? I’ll grant that the Bitcoin aspect is indeed merely tacked on the side of an otherwise unrelated protocol.
The protocol was built to exchange cryptocurrency over it. Today, basically nobody uses it except for cryptocurrency shills. (I don’t say that as merely an insult. The people on it constantly post about cryptocurrency or use cryptocurrency-specific in-jokes.)
The protocol was built to exchange cryptocurrency over it.
No it wasn’t…
Can you provide any counterevidence to the claims?
To quote them: “Nostr was kickstarted mostly by a community of Bitcoiners, so it has disproportionately attracted the attention of Bitcoiners.”
The “optional” Bitcoin payment system is baked into the biggest Nostr clients.
The claim was:
The protocol was built to exchange cryptocurrency over it.
Not:
The protocol attracted attention primarily from Bitcoiners who built tools around it to support payments
The new, watered-down framing of your claim sorta just makes me think: “Okay? And?”
instead of asking obviously leading questions, why not tell people what you know?
What’s wrong with using rhetorical questions as a response when people talk shit without expanding on it?
That wasn’t a question…
If people are going to make wild assertions, I’m going to question them about them.
Neat? But not worth my time
Nah, vine sucked.
